You shouldn't be so rude Jim, people on here listen to you as they do to everyone, and I don't think they really deserve insults for indulging each other.

By the way you'll no be getting Hindu philosophy from me often, so savour that. 

Ok just to be clear then I am out. First off HC, You said the 1800 were tested. No they were not. lots of deaths in care homes and there were no tests done. Like I said there are three lists on a certificate, the third is basically a fill in for any causes that MAY have contributed. Many of the care home deaths were not related but as long as it was listed in the third slot it was counted in the government figures. So no they did not test the dead from care homes so the figures are false.

Anders, No comment on the answer I gave about doing it right. Neither Strugeon or Boris has done it right by the country.
Secondly you suggest my comment on Sturgeon using this as a political tool. The Scotsman paper the last couple of days has run with, the SNP using C19 to further the rift to promote Independence and today they are running with Sturgeon demanding more spending powers for the Scottish Parliament.
So it's not just my take on it. I support the SNP BUT Sturgeon is not the right one to lead the party. On a side note her insistence on women taking a bigger part shows her agenda, IF a woman is the best candidate then give her the job, however she is promoting women over better qualified men simply due to gender.

So is it any wonder I get pissed when the PARTY line is quoted with no thought to what is going on behind the scenes. Look at the bigger picture and don't just quote what Strugeon/ Boris says as if it's the only truth.

Now I am done.

Jambojim52 wrote:

Ok just to be clear then I am out. First off HC, You said the 1800 were tested. No they were not. lots of deaths in care homes and there were no tests done. Like I said there are three lists on a certificate, the third is basically a fill in for any causes that MAY have contributed. Many of the care home deaths were not related but as long as it was listed in the third slot it was counted in the government figures. So no they did not test the dead from care homes so the figures are false.

Anders, No comment on the answer I gave about doing it right. Neither Strugeon or Boris has done it right by the country.
Secondly you suggest my comment on Sturgeon using this as a political tool. The Scotsman paper the last couple of days has run with, the SNP using C19 to further the rift to promote Independence and today they are running with Sturgeon demanding more spending powers for the Scottish Parliament.
So it's not just my take on it. I support the SNP BUT Sturgeon is not the right one to lead the party. On a side note her insistence on women taking a bigger part shows her agenda, IF a woman is the best candidate then give her the job, however she is promoting women over better qualified men simply due to gender.

So is it any wonder I get pissed when the PARTY line is quoted with no thought to what is going on behind the scenes. Look at the bigger picture and don't just quote what Strugeon/ Boris says as if it's the only truth.

Now I am done.

My instinct is to reply to what you've posted Jim, but there's not much point given you've said you won't post on the thread again (how many times? )

Instead, here's a wee video for you.  Now, sing along. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XTN_W-9Ypl0

See things are beginning to ease off back home now, so hopefully that's good news. Ken my old boy has been going spare without getting out for his daily pint. 
Still a week or two behind Scotland over here, so I'll maybe see a cold one poured by August.