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Clubs to get a vote on whether to end the season as it stands
...according to the Scotsman:
The top league could vote differently from the others (so we could be spared any 'end it as it stands' vote from championship clubs looking to benefit financially from having Hearts in their league next season.
I suspect Sellik, Motherwell, St Mirren, Ross County and Hamilton will all vote to take what they have now.
Aberdeen and ourselves will vote the other way.
Leaving Livi Hibs St J & Kilmarnock who could see it either way.
They may think they can improve their position so vote with us. Or maybe not. They may look at the 'excitement factor' of carrying on bringing in bumper crowds so want to do that. They may see the complications (on contracts etc) of carrying on as an expense so take the opposite view. They may think that it is more games to carry on therefore more income.
Or it may be an embellished story with the current position being a little short of definitely an impending vote, as other organs are not carrying the story.
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St J and Hibs are close and whoever won ( had the game been played ) could have been top six and the other bottom six. Hard to see how they will vote as the one trying for top six will want to play and the other want it called now.
Sheep are only one point off Motherwell in third and would want the bigger cut of the pot.
This is why I said call the league done, split the prize money equally between all clubs and increase to 14 next season. The only teams to suffer then would be third and fourth in the Championship and they don't count.
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I think there's a solution for them. Ending now gets them sued, both by clubs who've invested heavily to get promotion or a European place just to see that snatched away from them when they had plenty of points to play for and maybe in some cases the 'easier' teams left to play. If rivals haven't played the same teams then it's not really an equal chance leading to a fair outcome. So I don't see ending now.
Reconstruction takes some of that away: no-one gets relegated so clubs down the league will buy into it, those chasing Europe or promotion from lower leagues but a couple of points short of it will still be unhappy tho. Changing this season's ending part way through means unhappiness and possibly litigation from them, but changing next season before it starts avoids that for the top league at least. In Scotland we could change it so that in 20-21 the teams play each other 3 times not 4 leaving space early on, assuming the earliest European rounds get cancelled so we don't need to identify who qualifies until later, to finish the outstanding games.
I'd like reconstruction and teams in the bottom 6 would vote for it as would frequently-championship clubs who think they'd stand a better chance of promotion to the Prem in future, either because it was tied in with 2-up 2-down or because it would mean some of their biggest promotion rivals were no longer in the championship with them, they'd already be out of it in the Prem.
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The problem with increasing the league ( something I advocate ) is the " old firm" would not vote for it as an increase would mean the rest would take more points off each other and put pressure on the top, meaning Celtic might not get 10 or Sevco 1 title.
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oh i dunno Jim, they'd fancy their chances against two more weaker sides so I don't think they'd think they'd lose ground. The biggest thing that'd make sides vote against it is if it meant fewer games against the OF (and for the OF if it meant fewer games against each other) as the money those games generate is important, and even more so now with clubs not getting the income they'd expected and some saying they could struggle to survive.
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I think most of this promotion demotion is premature. Fairly sure there will be clubs folding before income is renewed.
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Well that was quite the weekend. 
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IJ wrote:
Well that was quite the weekend.
And the shenanigans haven’t finished yet. Dundee set to assume the position in order to get their 30 pieces of silver!
Scummy fuckers!
These are the times I wish Vlad was still in charge. Could you imagine the shit-storm he’d be creating right now? 😂😂
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Daily Mail reporting Dundee have been offered lucrative friendlies with top SPL clubs if they change their vote to Yes.
How any vote can be considered valid with the hint of bribery I don't see how they can hope to get away with it.
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Bribery probably isn't against the rules. As the rules are being made up on the hoof nothing they want need be against them for long, whereas things they don't want can be outlawed. Tom English claims that the rules state that a vote Yes can't be changed to a No but a No can be changed to a Yes. If that's true it's clear which way things are going to go, one way or another. Only clear-minded integrity from Dundee or league reconstruction will save us from playing in the Championship next season. Even tho this season's rules probably state that such things get decided once all fixtures have been completed, and we're some way short of that.. And there are ways that the could be pl;ayed to a conclusion.
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